The Church and the ‘Clobber Scriptures’ — The Bible on Homosexuality – The Church and the ‘Clobber Scriptures’ — The Bible on Homosexuality.

And on another contemporary culture front, Al Mohler in a  recent blog writes about a “new” strategy supporters of homosexuality within the church are using to undermine the Bible’s clear condemnation of this sin: they accuse the church and Christians of “clobbering” people with certain Bible passages. You will benefit from reading this insightful commentary by Mohler. Here are a few paragraphs; you will find the rest at the link above.

Is the Church guilty of beating people with the Bible? As strange as that argument might sound, it is actually a powerful weapon in the hands of those who are determined to normalize homosexuality and same-sex marriage within the Church. Those pushing for the acceptance of homosexuality now argue that Christians opposed to that agenda are “clobbering” sinners with the biblical text.

There seems to be no authoritative original source for this very powerful rhetorical innovation, but it has become increasingly popular in recent years, and it is deployed as a way of subverting the Bible’s condemnation of same-gender sexuality.

In his new book, Fall to Grace, Jay Bakker presents a classic form of this argument. Bakker, the son of Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker, is now co-pastor of Revolution Church in New York City — a congregation described by New York magazine as “a church that is still figuring out its message.” Well, it may be trying to figure out its message on some issues, but on homosexuality its position is very clear.

…Nevertheless, the most important aspect of Bakker’s argument is his way of dismissing the texts as “clobber Scriptures” — suggesting that the Church is misusing them by telling homosexuals that same-sex behaviors are sinful.

But is that what Christians do when we affirm the truthfulness and authority of the Bible? Is it “clobbering” people to point out that Scripture identifies their behavior or attitudes as sinful?

Certainly not — at least not when the biblical truth is asserted honestly. In other words, not when we honestly confess that our sins, too, are condemned within the same Bible.

Without a knowledge of our sinfulness, we do not know of our need for a Savior. In this sense, we all need to be “clobbered” by the Bible so that we will know of our need for Christ.

The Gospel according to Oprah

Religion: The gospel according to Oprah :: The Republic.


On Saturday’s from time to time I like to post stories that relate to our contemporary culture, whether that be about its depravity or about its “spirituality”. As you may know (ladies especially?!), Oprah Winfrey recorded her last show a couple of weeks ago. For 25 years she was the queen of talk TV programs. She was also known for the religious character of her program, though it was a mixed bag. But that’s what made her show so popular, and that is why her show is a commentary on the “religion” of our (post)-modern times. Many have written about Oprah’s “gospel”. I thought this writer did a fine job in summarizing what this “gospel” consisted of. This story as I read it appeared in the Grand Rapids Press last Saturday, but I found it online here. The author, Terry Mattingly, is director of the Washington Journalism Center at the Council for Christian Colleges and Universities.


Here’s an excerpt from his article; read the rest at the link above.


There was only one way “The Oprah Winfrey Show” could end after 25 years — with a sermon.

“Here’s what I learned,” explained Winfrey, in a monologue now circulating as an online “love letter” to viewers. “Nobody but you is responsible for your life. It doesn’t matter what your mama did. It doesn’t matter what your daddy didn’t do. …

“You are responsible for the energy that you create for yourself, and you’re responsible for the energy that you bring to others. … All life is energy and we are transmitting it at every moment. We are all little beaming little signals like radio frequencies, and the world is responding in kind.”

God is in there, somewhere, along with love, grace, kindness, tears, empathy, consolation, compassion and, above all, self-acceptance. Put it all together and you have a non-threatening faith that many Americans call “spirituality,” as opposed to religion.

Knowing this issue was sure to arise, Winfrey frequently played the God card during her farewell show and even used the oh-so-controversial J-word — Jesus.

All her success, she stressed, has been built on “My team, and Jesus. Because nothing but the hand of God has made this possible for me.”

Was this any particular God? After all, Winfrey’s only orthodoxy has long been her conviction that there can be no one true orthodoxy.

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